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I'd support the notion that it's a spritzer bottle. A couple squirts of compressed gas into your drink bottle, shake up a bit, and bam, carbonated beverage!
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Has anyone found a good DIY carbonation solution? Darned if I'm gone buy a sodastream.
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joeball wrote:
Has anyone found a good DIY carbonation solution? Darned if I'm gone buy a sodastream.
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caustic meatloaf wrote:
I'd support the notion that it's a spritzer bottle. A couple squirts of compressed gas into your drink bottle, shake up a bit, and bam, carbonated beverage!
Because if you don't shake it, the bubbles won't mix into the beverage well enough?
joeball wrote:
Has anyone found a good DIY carbonation solution? Darned if I'm gone buy a sodastream.
I say "cheap" because, neglecting the cost of the CO2 and CO2 tank, it's pretty inexpensive (compared to the $100 or whatever for a sodastream). If you already have an airtank, I guess you're set. Or if you find someplace with a deposit/exchange setup. But outright buying an airtank will put you over $100 pretty quick, I would think.
Alternately, if you were interested in homebrewing, you could just go for a CO2 tank and cornelius kegs, and you'd get some equipment overlap. Not much you could do to cut costs, but that would be about as "professional" a setup as you could hope to have - you'd be making more than the sodastream's 1L-at-a-time, and you could carbonate anything you want (sodastream is only water, then you can add syrup/flavor).
But in defense of the sodastream, while it might be a little more expensive, and not as DIY-satisfying, it still pays for itself pretty quickly if you drink carbonated water on any kind of regular basis.
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:51 pm
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I refill my CO2 at Central Welding in Ballard, bought a 5lb tank once and it's like $8 to swap it for a full one.
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AAA fire AND Safety right near the nickerson will refill CO2 tanks as well.
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Anyhow, don't you guys just get your carbonated water out of the sparkling water tap at work?
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:21 pm
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lantius wrote:
I refill my CO2 at Central Welding in Ballard, bought a 5lb tank once and it's like $8 to swap it for a full one.
That's roughly 4x cost effective over the sodastream ($15 for 2.5lb), for those playing along at home.
EDIT: wait I think my math is fucked. long story short, refilling something other than a sodastream is significantly cheaper
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caustic meatloaf wrote:
AAA fire AND Safety right near the nickerson will refill CO2 tanks as well.
will they refill my Sodastream? Seriously though, I got it as a gift and it's been quite nice and helpful in replacing beer in my drinking-at-home habit
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lantius wrote:
Anyhow, don't you guys just get your carbonated water out of the sparkling water tap at work?
There isn't running water of any kind on my floor.
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langston wrote:
caustic meatloaf wrote:
AAA fire AND Safety right near the nickerson will refill CO2 tanks as well.
will they refill my Sodastream? Seriously though, I got it as a gift and it's been quite nice and helpful in replacing beer in my drinking-at-home habit
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tell me more. hilary drinks fizzy water like mad. is it worth the purchase. we often get 2L bottle 5 for 5 when they are on sale at Ballard Market.
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I don't know where to refill paintball CO2 cylinders in Seattle anymore. I used to do it at Butch's guns and used them for my portable homebrew beer setup (which I just sold on Saturday). I think you have to go out to the 'burbs now.
You could build a system that used a 5lb welding CO2 cylinder, they are easily refilled at Central Welding. It's common homebrew equipment to make fizzy water (instead of beer) using a soda/homebrew 3 or 5 gallon keg, CO2 regulator, and CO2 cylinder.
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Alex wrote:
You could build a system that used a 5lb welding CO2 cylinder, they are easily refilled at Central Welding. It's common homebrew equipment to make fizzy water (instead of beer) using a soda/homebrew 3 or 5 gallon keg, CO2 regulator, and CO2 cylinder.
Yeah, this is what T's dad has setup out on the homestead. Carbonated water comes off the corny keg and is put into grolsch bottles.
not sure where he refills his CO2, but I'm sure it's not anywhere near Seattle.
fatasian wrote:
tell me more. hilary drinks fizzy water like mad. is it worth the purchase. we often get 2L bottle 5 for 5 when they are on sale at Ballard Market.
After equipment has been paid for, and you're just buying CO2 refills, I think the math so far is about $0.25/L (of beverage) for the sodastream, and probably more like $0.05/L for other routes.
BB&B sends out tons of coupons, including a 20% and a $5 off pretty frequently, so you could buy the machine for $20 off, and then get the CO2 refills for $10, bringing the cost per L down to like $0.15.
So, Deven, vs. the $0.50/L from Ballard Market, a stock sodastream bought w/ coupons will pay for itself in about 250 L (DIY options would obviously pay for themselves much faster). There's also the advantage of not having to buy/carry/recycle 10L of water and bottles every time you go to the store.
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Alex wrote:
I don't know where to refill paintball CO2 cylinders in Seattle anymore. I used to do it at Butch's guns and used them for my portable homebrew beer setup (which I just sold on Saturday). I think you have to go out to the 'burbs now.
You could build a system that used a 5lb welding CO2 cylinder, they are easily refilled at Central Welding. It's common homebrew equipment to make fizzy water (instead of beer) using a soda/homebrew 3 or 5 gallon keg, CO2 regulator, and CO2 cylinder.
I've got a 5lb system, and I think I *might* have a 2.5lb tank kicking around,but it has a push-lock connection, not a full valve - that would need to be replaced.
But, typically, I've found that AAA Fire and Safety will refill homebrew CO2 tanks too.
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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:54 am
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So is all bulk CO2 "food grade" ?
I had some paintball tanks from my youth buy I guess they only have a 10 yr stamp on them so mine expired in the last millennium.
I found it interesting how far back sodastream dates. It's a proprietary system that marks up a cheap commodity (CO2) which is what irked me. They also feel like flimsy pieces of plastic, kitchen crap which I have strong bias against. So far we just buy a few talking rain bottles when they are on sale (~$0.50/L).
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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:36 pm
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No. While CO2 is CO2, there are grades of purity. I think food grade is 99.90%, while industrial grade is 99%. If that last one percent contains benzene, it might make you sick.
I don't know how common this is, or if a supplier can know their industrial co2 doesn't have any dangerous impurities. I think lots of people do it anyway.
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